topaz: (grinnybike)
Tim Pierce ([personal profile] topaz) wrote2010-03-10 11:10 am
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Google Biking

Google Maps gets biking directions: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/biking-directions-added-to-google-maps.html

Dark green routes are dedicated bike trails and sidepaths; light green are bike lanes, and dashed green lines are "recommended" roads for biking.

I haven't explored it much yet to see what I think of the actual routes it suggests.  It seems to recommend bike paths and lanes strongly over other roads, which is fine, but of course it can't really take things like road surface quality into account.
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[personal profile] randysmith 2010-03-10 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
but of course it can't really take things like road surface quality into account.

I see this and I think "why the heck not??". It would require some level of crowd sourcing, but that'd be a useful thing to suggest to the team. If I work there I may try and do that :-}.

Your point about the recommendations is interesting, though; I've had multiple modes in my own biking life of whether I preferred direct path with traffic, or mellow bikepath without. That might be an area for personal preference learning. Hmmm.

(Can you tell I'm considering working at Google? It gives a much more personal investment in these kind of issues :-})
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[identity profile] qwrrty.livejournal.com 2010-03-10 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
The "multiple modes" problem is exactly what I always thought would make a bike mapping application really useful: if I could ask it to optimize for distance, or for hills, or for quality of ride.... or even scenery.

The route it recommends between East Arlington and my office favors the Minuteman bikeway extension all the way through Davis Square. That's a fine way to go if your goal is to minimize road travel, but I prefer taking Mass Ave. to Beacon St. and cutting a half-mile off the route. That's hard to account for, given the range of individual tastes.
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[personal profile] randysmith 2010-03-10 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
But Google's all about adapting to individual taste, at least with regard to their ads; no reason it can't do so with regard to their directions too. Just allow them to scan your brain and keep a fully functional computer simulation of you online and everything will be fine :-} (but I am serious about thinking that the adaptation to individual tastes could be done.)
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[identity profile] qwrrty.livejournal.com 2010-03-10 04:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure, I believe that the application could offer you different routes based on your personal preferences. It could even learn what your preferences are (e.g. offer a few different alternative routes and invite you to click on a button to let it know which one you liked best).

I think the hard part would be collecting data on issues like road surface quality and lane width. Those aren't quantities with a known canonical source, but can affect the bikeability of a route a lot.