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Tim Pierce ([personal profile] topaz) wrote2003-11-02 01:00 pm
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Preferred X11 LJ clients?

Those of you who read LiveJournal under X windows: what's your preferred LJ client? ljupdate.el is suddenly coughing up hairballs at me, and assuming I don't find the time to fix it, I'm looking for suggestions.
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[personal profile] fraterrisus 2003-11-02 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
i use logjam. i wouldn't call it fantastic, but it works just fine. the friends-list manager is a little clunky. although, i'm using the older version that's in apt-stable (debian's package manager). requires GTK and libcurl.
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[identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com 2003-11-03 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
I use logjam, too. There's also [livejournal.com profile] ljcharm, which runs on python; i use it to archive my posts locally.

[identity profile] sandhawke.livejournal.com 2003-11-03 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
Stupid question, but what does a client get you that a browser doesn't?
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[identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com 2003-11-03 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
More settings, you can save drafts of what you're working on, and most importantly, they tend to crash a lot less often than Web browsers do.

Well, logjam does have tendency to crash when you try to submit a post and LiveJournal is busy and you hit the Cancel button.

[identity profile] sandhawke.livejournal.com 2003-11-03 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
Hm. If it's long, I it compose in my "log" emacs window (which has been open nearly continuously since 1987 :-) and then paste it into my browser.

What's weird for me about LJ clients is that they seem to only cover about 2% of what one does with LJ (namely posting in your own journal). Most of LJ is about reading other people's stuff, or replying to their stuff.
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[identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com 2003-11-03 06:23 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but if your browser crashes while reading, it's not a big deal.

For some reason, though, my browser hasn't crashed while leaving a comment. Funny, that.

blast from the past: tkwww

[identity profile] boutell.livejournal.com 2003-11-03 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Speaking of the X Window System, weren't you involved with the TkWWW browser way the heck back when? There's a desperate search for prior art going on to invalidate a very stupid patent on applications embedded in HTML. (http://news.com.com/2100-1028-5100693.html) The oldest citation they seem to have is 1994 (Viola). I know there were early versions of TkWWW that had support for applet-like tk/tcl scripts in a page. Then they pulled the feature because of security concerns, expecting to come back to it later. I *know* I played with this in 1993 but I can't find any documentation on the subject that is still extant. Any documents, saved emails, etc. regarding scripting in TkWWW in 1993 could tip the balance on this. Can you help? Thanks! (P.S. I thought tkwww would squash Mosaic. Shows what a big geek I was.)
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Re: blast from the past: tkwww

[identity profile] qwrrty.livejournal.com 2003-11-04 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I was in fact involved with TkWWW, at least tangentially... I didn't work on TkWWW proper, but on Phoenix, which was based on TkWWW and added a bunch of other stuff. (And not related in any way to Mozilla Firebird or any other modern projects. The University of Chicago Phoenix project is dead as far as I know.)

None of the work that I did involved Tk applets, I'm afraid. Very cool concept, but not one that I was working on.