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"Canadian" has become the new slur for "black" in some parts of the South, according to Canada's National Post.

I am so boggled I do not know where to begin.  Thanks be to [livejournal.com profile] kcatalyst for the tip.

Date: 2008-01-28 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rwx.livejournal.com
The language log data though seems to be more about canadians as poor tippers rather than 'canadian' as a linguistic dodge.

Date: 2008-01-28 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muckefuck.livejournal.com
We must be following different links. Did you read the entries in Mark Bennett's (http://www.bennettandbennett.com/blog/2008/01/memo-to-kelly-siegler-blame-canada.html) and Bill Sloat's (http://thebellwetherdaily.blogspot.com/2007/08/ohiosphere-tale-of-day-xi-canadian-as.html) blogs?

Date: 2008-01-28 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rwx.livejournal.com
whoops, I missed the first link and spent time reading around on the mailing list. Interesting, although one of the mailing list links goes to a longer discussion of Mark Bennett's.

Date: 2008-01-28 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dbang.livejournal.com
Well, one (http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0704d&L=ads-l&F=&S=&P=18207) of the mailing list posts points to these:
http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/showthread/t-187466.html
http://www.edmplanet.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2301347

I can only get to the second of those, which includes a post with this gem:
"i have the volume up and a not so loud level and a window open...and this....CANADIAN, we will say....knocks on my door and asks me to turn it down [...] i listen to your stupid ass rap shit when u have bbq in the parking lot where everyone BUT the white people are invited" etc.

That is suggestive. But it's the only non-national post reference I could find that links Canadians to non-white people and doesn't involve restaurant tipping.

Gonna keep looking around.

Date: 2008-01-28 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rwx.livejournal.com
Yeah, I've found a few other references. I was initially suspect because of the source, but it seems like it happens to some extent at least. weird.

Date: 2008-01-28 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muckefuck.livejournal.com
The more I think about it, I wonder if poor tipping might be the original connexion--or at least one of them. I didn't know about this reputation among Canadians, but blacks seem to be notorious for undertipping with a lot of servers.

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